Virginia Gun Owners Forum - VGOF

Cool video about a country where a gun is mandatory for men up to the age of 30....Then some gun facts I found interestinghttp://news.yahoo.com/who-knew/registered-guns-which-countries-have-the-highest-registered-gun-to-citizen-ratio-29789197.html#crsl=%252Fwho-knew%252Fregistered-guns-which-countries-have-the-highest-registered-gun-to-citizen-ratio-29789197.html

Sounds like heaven,,,,,

I think that local militias are a great idea. Perhaps a little mandatory service in them on the part of young men isn't a bad idea, either. Although, I could see the whole thing being perverted by politics.

I wonder how hard it would be to set up a local militia in similar fashion to a volunteer fire department?

You know, the debate has always been whether or not to make military service mandatory.

Most that do, want them to go FULL time, my argument was always, "Why isn't serving in the NG, or reserves good enough?" No one could answer me.

Plus? That would relieve some of the military from having to hire full time guys to do some of the part time work. That saves money in the long run.

That being said, I know some folks that I absolutely DREADED going into military service, gang members, drug dealers, bullies, etc. etc. Dunno what to do with them.

Good points , All!

http://www.vdf.virginia.gov/

VA does have a militia

http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504 ... od+44-75.1

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I have heard that the Czech republic, has a high percentage of gun ownership, and gun carrying is prevalent. Y'all should czech it out!

GeneFrenkle wrote:http://www.vdf.virginia.gov/

VA does have a militia

http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504 ... od+44-75.1

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Technically yes, practically no.

gunderwood wrote:

GeneFrenkle wrote:http://www.vdf.virginia.gov/

VA does have a militia

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Technically yes, practically no.

I'm not sure I understand how it is practically not. There is also the unorganized militia. If you're suggesting that there probably would never arise a true and compelling reason to fully activate the militia, I'd probably agree. If, however, you're suggesting the idea and notion of a militia is obsolete, that's probably a debatable (and probably interesting) topic. Could you briefly expand on your statement?

§ 44-1. Composition of militia.The militia of the Commonwealth of Virginia shall consist of all able-bodied citizens of this Commonwealth and all other able-bodied persons resident in this Commonwealth who have declared their intention to become citizens of the United States, who are at least sixteen years of age and, except as hereinafter provided, not more than fifty-five years of age. The militia shall be divided into four classes, the National Guard, which includes the Army National Guard and the Air National Guard, the Virginia State Defense Force, the naval militia, and the unorganized militia.

§ 44-4. Composition of unorganized militia.The unorganized militia shall consist of all able-bodied persons as set out in § 44-1, except such as may be included in §§ 44-2, 44-3, and 44-54.6, and except such as may be exempted as hereinafter provided.

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GeneFrenkle wrote:

gunderwood wrote:

GeneFrenkle wrote:http://www.vdf.virginia.gov/

VA does have a militia

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Technically yes, practically no.

I'm not sure I understand how it is practically not. There is also the unorganized militia. If you're suggesting that there probably would never arise a true and compelling reason to fully activate the militia, I'd probably agree. If, however, you're suggesting the idea and notion of a militia is obsolete, that's probably a debatable (and probably interesting) topic. Could you briefly expand on your statement?

§ 44-1. Composition of militia.The militia of the Commonwealth of Virginia shall consist of all able-bodied citizens of this Commonwealth and all other able-bodied persons resident in this Commonwealth who have declared their intention to become citizens of the United States, who are at least sixteen years of age and, except as hereinafter provided, not more than fifty-five years of age. The militia shall be divided into four classes, the National Guard, which includes the Army National Guard and the Air National Guard, the Virginia State Defense Force, the naval militia, and the unorganized militia.

§ 44-4. Composition of unorganized militia.The unorganized militia shall consist of all able-bodied persons as set out in § 44-1, except such as may be included in §§ 44-2, 44-3, and 44-54.6, and except such as may be exempted as hereinafter provided.

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Technically it exists in the VA code, as you pointed out. Practically...

1. The National Guards for all intents are purposes might as well be part of the national military. Yes, I understand the dog and pony show of how the command is suppose to work. If the governer ever wanted them to do something the central government didn't also want, you'll find out who they really work for real quick.

2. The VA State Defense Force is a militia in name only. They are there to support the guard and miliary, that's about it. Heck, they can't even train with arms. Without the central governments approval, it's useless.

When called to state active duty, the mission of the Virginia Defense Force shall be to

provide for an adequately trained organized reserve militia to assume control of Virginia National Guard facilities and to secure any federal and state property left in place in the event of the mobilization of the Virginia National Guard

assist in the mobilization of the Virginia National Guard

support the Virginia National Guard in providing family assistance to military dependents within the Commonwealth in the event of the mobilization of the National Guard

provide a military force to respond to the call of the Governor in those circumstances described in § 44-75
http://www.vdf.virginia.gov/

3. What naval milita?

4. It's unorganized all right, to the point of being non-functional. Does anyone in this state have any idea or plan how to call it up in the event of an emergency? Not a chance. As interesting as it is historically and conceptually, practically the state has no "unorganized" militia.

Simply put, the VA militia is really only a militia in name only.