Virginia Gun Owners Forum - VGOF

This is getting ridiculous.

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2012/0623/ ... h-governor

And all this time I thought that it was the Republicans fault

The people who come up with this must be standing in big room and all wearing I'm with stupid shirts!

I shal now go out to the country and with some gasoline soaked hay to make a video and prove to them that bullets can't do that!

Somebody please remind this idiot to suck air in and blow it out so he can breathe. I wouldn't want his self suffocation to be blamed on gun enthusiasts. Give me a damn break.

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I don't know I wouldn't haul off with that can of gas too quickly, it isn't exactly far fetched. I've seen many large range fires kicked off by ammunition, maybe Utah just has that many people blasting away in the woods or wherever they're going to shoot. You figure all it takes is some dope with a few "cool tracer rounds" and the chances of starting a brush fire go up pretty quickly.

On a different note, imagine if guns were linked to the dinosaurs extinction? How cool would that look to unearthen a Tyrannosaur skeleton holding a pistol sideways like a wannabe gangster?

No I'd say about 85% of them are caused by natural occurances such as lightning, then another 14% are caused by campfires, then a staggering 1 % are caused by other means (cigarettes, psychos, and mabey in some extremely rare instance a bullet though more than likely muzzle flash).

But tell me this if bullets are so hot as to cause ignition then why do paper targets lack burn marks? It's becasue once the bullet leaves the gun it starts to cool as air cannot cause enough friction. Now mabey if it strikes the right type of rock that is surrounded by the right type of kindling, it may spark and cause a fire but the odds of that are long.

Scientists say that dinosaurs farted themselves into extinction. So dont fart when pulling the trigger and you should be good.

Unless I missed something in chemistry class, how can lead and copper cause a spark? Steel core round...possible...tracer round probable, but still unlikely. As to the second posters post....nah....... it was Cheney, not Bush!!!!!

Lead and copper cause a spark? Like you, I'm not sure, I'm Biology geek (sharks are cool!) rather than a Chemistry geek. When I was in the Army I was stationed at Fort Hood, TX. We used to set the ranges on fire all the time. If I had to hedge a bet I would say that tracers were probably the main culprit followed by steel. At night especially with the steel tank rounds, you could see them spark in the thermal sights. To the point where there was a permanent detail from whichever platoon wasn't shooting, their entire job for the day was to go snuff out brush fires. It was a real pain in the dick at night because the residual heat would play games with the thermals. They would spread quick as hell with a good just a little wind.

Looking around, thr big fire mentioned was started by machine gun fire on a national guard camp. FWIW

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The Dump fire in Utah, touched off by ricocheting bullets sparking dry cheatgrass, became the 20th wildfire this year caused by target shooters. Many states, including Utah, are prevented from imposing emergency gun controls.

Ricocheting bullets????? conf: conf:
REALLY? Someone's been watching way too many 1950's westerns.
Even with mil.surp. steel cored rounds, what are the odds of hitting a rock hard enough (like flint) and close enough to dry grass to start a fire?

Mythbusters couldn't get a car (with plenty of gasoline) to explode (or catch fire) without using tracer bullets and backing off far enough for the tracer chemicals to get going real good.

A comment posted on another forum:

a) exploding targets (e.g. tannerite): yes
b) incendiary ammo (e.g. tracers, "dragon's breath"): yes
c) traditional black powder gun: maybe, in close proximity to highly combustible vegetation
d) muzzle flash from short-barreled rifle/shotgun: maybe, ditto
e) rounds sparking on rocks: highly unlikely unless a highly combustible accelerant is present

Some people are saying hot brass is the culprit.
Personally, I don't think that hot brass ejected from a semi-auto is anywhere near 451°F. Assuming, of course, that the temperature to start a fire in tinder-dry grass is close to the temperature at which paper spontaneously combusts.

Human-caused wildfires increase in Calif.

LOS ANGELES — Embers drifting from a campfire in a seaside canyon ignite a wildfire that incinerates 53 homes in Malibu.

A man driving on a national forest road stops on tinder-dry grass. The hot engine acts like a match, kindling a wildfire that burns thousands of acres.

And authorities suspect that a blaze that destroyed 78 homes in the Santa Barbara area last week was started by sparks from a power tool being used to clear brush.

And here in Virginia, (from the VA Dept. of Forestry):
Causes of Forest Fires

In Virginia, most forest fires are the result of human actions, and can be prevented by using common sense, following fire safety rules, and obeying fire laws. The greatest number of fires occur in February, March, April and May. This period is known as Spring Fire Season. Fall Fire Season in October, November and December.

That doesn't mean that it can't be done, on purpose, that is. With DragonBreath