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Do guns makes us free?

Postby OakRidgeStars » Wed, 22 Feb 2012 09:00:13

From The Daily Caller
By AWR Hawkins, Ph.D.

Are we armed because we’re free or are we free because we’re armed?

Every time I read the Bill of Rights, I am struck by the wisdom our Founding Fathers demonstrated in pronouncing and protecting our natural rights. From religious liberty to protections on private property and the security we have in our own persons, our rights are essential to our humanity because our Creator saw fit to endow us with them. Moreover, because they flow from God to man rather than from government to man, our Founders designated them as off-limits to government encroachment.

But while the whole of the Bill of Rights is magnificent, it is in the Second Amendment especially that one gets a real taste of both the simplicity and profundity of the Founders:

A well-regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and Arms, shall not be infringed.

In these words, we not only see the right to keep and bear arms clearly and simply set forth, but also the profound truth that an armed population is “necessary to the security of a free state.” No other right is explicitly described by the Founders as necessary to the security of a free state.

No wonder George Washington said a “free people ought … to be armed.”

Read more here: http://dailycaller.com/2012/02/20/are-w ... were-armed
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Re: Do guns makes us free?

Postby Kreutz » Wed, 22 Feb 2012 09:47:53

Without the will to use them all the guns in the world just take up space.

This country is not so slowly becoming less and less free, despite having tens of millions of firearms floating around. So IMO no, guns alone do not make anyone free.
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Re: Do guns makes us free?

Postby SHMIV » Wed, 22 Feb 2012 09:56:06

Kreutz wrote:
Without the will to use them all the guns in the world just take up space.

This country is not so slowly becoming less and less free, despite having tens of millions of firearms floating around. So IMO no, guns alone do not make anyone free.



I find myself in complete agreement with Kreutz on this one.
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Re: Do guns makes us free?

Postby dorminWS » Wed, 22 Feb 2012 10:37:41

Kreutz assertion is right; as far as it goes. However I think the point is not that guns will make you free; but rather that without guns you do not have the means to defend your freedom even if you have the will to do so.
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Re: Do guns makes us free?

Postby thekinetic » Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:18:20

First off god did not endow man with the bill of rights, only life liberty and the persuit of happiness are inalienable. The bill of rights was created to help protect our rights as free people.

But it is not these that make a people free though, it is diligence in watching those who would see us in chains. To take up arms against those who would do us harm. And if need be to overthrow a government that has become corrupted and no longer has it's people's best interests in mind.

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