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by **Hook1** » Fri, 03 Feb 2012 20:51:21

Looking to buy my 1st gun safe.Something middle of the road for 25 to 35 guns maby 1000- 1600 bucks. Iv looked at Heritage looks good but they dont get great reviews.Looks like Liberty gets great reviews but cant find a local dealer in central Va. Im not much at ordering off the net, I like to kick the tires first. Any help or suggestions thanks Kenny

by **allingeneral** » Fri, 03 Feb 2012 20:56:45

If you have a Gander Mountain nearby, you can check out what they have (Liberty) and kick some tires.

http://search.gandermountain.com/?Ne=4& ... rage-Safes

by **meak99** » Fri, 03 Feb 2012 21:08:05

Are you just looking to keep small and/or unwanted hands off your guns, or do you really want to lock them up 100% against theft and fully protect against fire, etc?

by **jdonovan** » Fri, 03 Feb 2012 21:25:29

Hook1 wrote:Looking to buy my 1st gun safe.Something middle of the road for 25 to 35 guns maby 1000- 1600 bucks. Iv looked at Heritage looks good but they dont get great reviews.Looks like Liberty gets great reviews but cant find a local dealer in central Va.

Its virtually impossible to asses what matters in a safe on a retail showroom floor. You need to take things apart and see how the doors are built.

Everyone can see locking bolts, so makers put lots of them on their safes, but then all the bolts tie into thin door sheet metal... worthless.

take a few min and watch this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBhOjWHbD6M

General advice, get the bigest you can afford/fit. Once you have it things other than guns will migrate into the safe.

Its generally hard to go wrong with a Liberty, but understand that if what you are buying in not in the 3000lb + range you are not getting a safe. If you want a good safe, take a look at Brown or Graffunder, but you'll spend 10K plus for one of them. I realize thats way outside your budget, but its good to know what is available in the market.

by **CalebDor** » Fri, 03 Feb 2012 22:06:11

Hey there!

I am a novice when it comes to safes but from what I understand Liberty Safes are pretty impressive. I know a few folks who own the smaller sizes but placed weights of lead into them as well so even though it was really small it was impossible for one or two standard issue human beings to lift it. I fret a great deal about my non carry weapons falling into unauthorized hands and a safe is definitely in my future.

Be well you!

by **Hook1** » Fri, 03 Feb 2012 22:49:26

I have a gun cabnet with a desk key lock that kep little hands out, now thier teens with friends coming & going. I want them out of sight & out of mind. Weve had some brake in round here lately too. I want best fire & secerity I can get for under 2000 grand. I checked Gander Mt sight for Liberty ,pricing sed on line orders only. Havent been by there for awile guess i'l stop by & see what they have

by **OakRidgeStars** » Sat, 04 Feb 2012 11:33:26

Here's what I found in the C'ville area

http://www.libertysafe.com/find-dealer. ... d+A+Dealer

by **Reverenddel** » Sat, 04 Feb 2012 12:15:12

Usually, a Gun "safe" is in combination with an alarm system. You're not going to keep out a determined thief... but if you slow them down, and have an alarm to alert the authorities, you're putting a crimp in their plans.

It's more an issue also with FIRE! Make sure that it had a high enough rating to withstand fire for the longest period of time. Because you've no idea what end of the house the fire will start, and for how long before the firefighters get there...

Those are my .02 cents worth.

by **gunderwood** » Sat, 04 Feb 2012 22:26:08

jdonovan wrote:
Hook1 wrote:Looking to buy my 1st gun safe.Something middle of the road for 25 to 35 guns maby 1000- 1600 bucks. Iv looked at Heritage looks good but they dont get great reviews.Looks like Liberty gets great reviews but cant find a local dealer in central Va.

Its virtually impossible to asses what matters in a safe on a retail showroom floor. You need to take things apart and see how the doors are built.

Everyone can see locking bolts, so makers put lots of them on their safes, but then all the bolts tie into thin door sheet metal... worthless.

take a few min and watch this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBhOjWHbD6M

General advice, get the bigest you can afford/fit. Once you have it things other than guns will migrate into the safe.

Its generally hard to go wrong with a Liberty, but understand that if what you are buying in not in the 3000lb + range you are not getting a safe. If you want a good safe, take a look at Brown or Graffunder, but you'll spend 10K plus for one of them. I realize thats way outside your budget, but its good to know what is available in the market.

+1

You don't have to spend big money, but understanding what you are getting for your cash is always a good idea. I'm a fan of Brown Safe and they have a good website, but you'd have to spend double that to get their entry level safe and that doesn't include getting into your place. Despite that you would do well reading their site for educational purposes.

by **Ordnance** » Sat, 04 Feb 2012 23:42:01

Cannon Safes are decent safes and build quality is decent. Bought one from Costco, I think is was the CS-20 model. It's based on thier direct model of the Scout 19 I believe http://www.cannonsafe.com/

I'm waiting for them to have the same one again, I may just buy another!

by **jdonovan** » Sun, 05 Feb 2012 10:14:24

Other than the brown and Graffunder previously discussed, all these 'safes' are residential security containers.

They are rated to keep an untrained attacker out of the container for 5 minutes, with ordinary hand tools. (hammer, crow bar, screw driver etc...)

by **SHMIV** » Sun, 05 Feb 2012 12:37:09

I saw plans one time for a continuous flow water heater that was installed inside of a giant standard water heater. The point of this was that the tank of the giant heater became a safe. The contraption looked like a standard water heater; thieves typically ignore boring appliances like that.

Of course, if you are not mechanically inclined, your plumber will likely learn of your secret safe in the future.

by **steelheart** » Mon, 06 Feb 2012 13:51:24

believe it or not try tractor supply/farm and family. was just over there yesterday looking at gun safes. nice and heavy and not a 5 minute crowbar opening safe for sure.

by **dorminWS** » Mon, 06 Feb 2012 18:08:39

steelheart wrote:believe it or not try tractor supply/farm and family. was just over there yesterday looking at gun safes. nice and heavy and not a 5 minute crowbar opening safe for sure.

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I bought a gun safe from Tractor supply a while back because none of mine were tall enough to accomodate a Bushmaster BA-50. I had to cut out one partition to make room for a few larger guns, so it's now a 30 gun safe. I'm pretty sure it was a Cannon. Around $1,000. It is obviously a better safe than the several that I've previously bought from Sam's Wholesale. How much better I'm not sure. Someday I'm going to build a concrete vault inside a walk-in closet and buy just a vault door; which I'll conceal behind a swinging bookcase. Someday.

by **steelheart** » Sat, 31 Mar 2012 01:44:57

hey dorminWS i gotta thank ya. just looking at that safe and all those toys got my trigger finger itching alot worse than it was! thanks now i REALLY gotta go shooting! by the way VERY nice collection!

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