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Better Shot with Pistol Than Rifle??? LOL

Postby MarcSpaz » Sun, 09 Apr 2017 13:39:04

Well, I don't what the heck I'm doing right or wrong. I had a great time at the range with a few friends of mine on Saturday. Something strange that happened is, I seem to be a better shot out to 35 or 40 yards with a pistol than with a rifle. I don't know if its my zero or what... but its got me wondering.

At 100 yards, I can ring steel with my pistol pretty regularly now. Yesterday, using my Walther PPQ on 100 yard targets, I hit an 8x11 steel plate 12 out of 15 shots. I landed 11 in a row and I wasn't slow shooting either. So, I felt a little cocky and started shooting at some golf balls that were about 35 yards out. With one mag, I was able to hit 4 golf balls. Man it was a good time. I really surprised myself at how well I did.

Well, A bit later, I grabbed my M4 clone and took a few shots at the golf balls. With a 30 round mag, I didn't hit a single ball. I could see splash in the dirt all around them, but no contact.

Well, my AR is zeroed for 100 yards. Its 3" from the top of my iron sight to the center of the barrel. Since I use a "six low" on the sight picture, I figured I would need to aim 2.5"-3" high to make contact. So, is that about right and I just missed, or am I messing up the hold-over?


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Re: Better Shot with Pistol Than Rifle??? LOL

Postby Jon » Sun, 09 Apr 2017 16:18:28

That's a problem I would like to have. :) You were tearing it up yesterday with your pistol skills.


I don't know what to tell you. My AR that you helped me zero for 100yds a couple of weeks ago, when I shot at some stuff inside 50yds yesterday I was aiming straight on and it seemed to be hitting POA. :shrug:


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Re: Better Shot with Pistol Than Rifle??? LOL

Postby MarcSpaz » Sun, 09 Apr 2017 16:27:47

Thanks for the kudos, Jon! I was having a great time, that's for sure

Glad to hear the zero is holding for you. You really scored a great setup with that while rifle.

I guess I'm doing something wrong. I just don't know what.

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Re: Better Shot with Pistol Than Rifle??? LOL

Postby Reverenddel » Sun, 09 Apr 2017 17:57:45

I can top that... I had a single action vaquero in a holster... drew, and hit the gong at 15 yards....QUICK! Everyone's back was to me as they reloaded mags...

NOT A DAMNED SOUL WAS WATCHING!

(sigh) Story of my life. :hysterical:


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Re: Better Shot with Pistol Than Rifle??? LOL

Postby Jon » Sun, 09 Apr 2017 18:08:28

Ehhh. accuracy is overrated anyway. Just stick to the bump stock, you'll hit something, lol. :machinegun:

That thing was a bit of a handful but I'd love to shoot it some more, I think I could get the hang of it. I'll have to bring some extra ammo just for that next time.


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Re: Better Shot with Pistol Than Rifle??? LOL

Postby Snakester » Sun, 09 Apr 2017 19:47:59

Well Rev, the next time Jon , Marc and I have a Range day , you are invited to join us to show off any shooting skills you have. We are always eager to be impressed !


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Re: Better Shot with Pistol Than Rifle??? LOL

Postby MarcSpaz » Sun, 09 Apr 2017 20:26:24

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:


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Re: Better Shot with Pistol Than Rifle??? LOL

Postby MarcSpaz » Sun, 09 Apr 2017 20:27:53

Jon wrote:Ehhh. accuracy is overrated anyway. Just stick to the bump stock, you'll hit something, lol. :machinegun:

That thing was a bit of a handful but I'd love to shoot it some more, I think I could get the hang of it. I'll have to bring some extra ammo just for that next time.



Yea, man... for sure. I'll bring it with me so you can have some more fun. Got to get some cheap .223 so it doesn't hurt the wallet too much.


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Re: Better Shot with Pistol Than Rifle??? LOL

Postby MarcSpaz » Sun, 09 Apr 2017 20:29:28

Reverenddel wrote:I can top that... I had a single action vaquero in a holster... drew, and hit the gong at 15 yards....QUICK! Everyone's back was to me as they reloaded mags...

NOT A DAMNED SOUL WAS WATCHING!

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I know that feeling. First time I hit the gong, I turned around and not a soul was watching. Oh well. Just more incentive to do it again... LOL


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Postby Snakester » Sun, 09 Apr 2017 20:38:43

Shooting is like golf and sex.....you don't have to be good at it to enjoy it !!!


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Postby MarcSpaz » Sun, 09 Apr 2017 23:01:47

Hell yea!

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Re: Better Shot with Pistol Than Rifle??? LOL

Postby Jakeiscrazy » Sun, 09 Apr 2017 23:49:58

MarcSpaz wrote:Well, I don't what the heck I'm doing right or wrong. I had a great time at the range with a few friends of mine on Saturday. Something strange that happened is, I seem to be a better shot out to 35 or 40 yards with a pistol than with a rifle. I don't know if its my zero or what... but its got me wondering.

At 100 yards, I can ring steel with my pistol pretty regularly now. Yesterday, using my Walther PPQ on 100 yard targets, I hit an 8x11 steel plate 12 out of 15 shots. I landed 11 in a row and I wasn't slow shooting either. So, I felt a little cocky and started shooting at some golf balls that were about 35 yards out. With one mag, I was able to hit 4 golf balls. Man it was a good time. I really surprised myself at how well I did.

Well, A bit later, I grabbed my M4 clone and took a few shots at the golf balls. With a 30 round mag, I didn't hit a single ball. I could see splash in the dirt all around them, but no contact.

Well, my AR is zeroed for 100 yards. Its 3" from the top of my iron sight to the center of the barrel. Since I use a "six low" on the sight picture, I figured I would need to aim 2.5"-3" high to make contact. So, is that about right and I just missed, or am I messing up the hold-over?


Let me ask you, are you cross eye dominate? Maybe you're using your dominate eye with the pistol but your non dominate with the rifle?
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Re: Better Shot with Pistol Than Rifle??? LOL

Postby MarcSpaz » Mon, 10 Apr 2017 00:42:11

Jakeiscrazy wrote:Let me ask you, are you cross eye dominate? Maybe you're using your dominate eye with the pistol but your non dominate with the rifle?


I didn't even think about visual acuity or vision health in general. I am right eye dominate and shot my rifle with my right eye. However, I shoot my pistol with both eyes open. It might actually be a depth perception issue.

Man... I am going to have to try shooting the rifle with both eyes open. Thanks for the reply. I really think there is something there.


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Re: Better Shot with Pistol Than Rifle??? LOL

Postby Snakester » Wed, 12 Apr 2017 20:36:44

I actually feel like you have been shooting pretty good Marc. A couple Saturday's ago when we were shooting mostly our lever rifles you were giving the steel a real workout !!! Your lever rifles all have iron sights while the semi auto's are scoped. I always prefer scopes with cross hairs over red dots. We will have to work on it !!!


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Re: Better Shot with Pistol Than Rifle??? LOL

Postby MarcSpaz » Thu, 13 Apr 2017 09:54:08

Yea man... That was a good time. That 44-40 was spot on!

I think my glasses cause issues when I shoot with magnified optics. But I have seen too many videos of guns blowing up in peoples hands... So I'll just keep those on. LOL

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