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.45 acp w/ small primers??? any info??

.45 acp w/ small primers??? any info??

Postby youg » Wed, 01 Dec 2010 08:45:49

Was reloading some .45 acp last night and came across some brass that seems to take small primers. Identical in every way except the primer size. I have never come across this untill now. Any info? Is it safe to load as normal, just use the small primer? I'm loading 230gr rn with 4 gr of bullseye, just for the record.


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Re: .45 acp w/ small primers??? any info??

Postby Jim » Wed, 01 Dec 2010 09:56:25

I've seen discussions on this before. Don't remember the brand of brass that was mentioned, but bottom line was use a small standard pistol primer and load as usual.
A real PITA when they get mixed in with the rest. Time to sort.
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Re: .45 acp w/ small primers??? any info??

Postby SgtBill » Wed, 01 Dec 2010 10:13:34

Jim wrote:I've seen discussions on this before. Don't remember the brand of brass that was mentioned, but bottom line was use a small standard pistol primer and load as usual.
A real PITA when they get mixed in with the rest. Time to sort.

Suggest that you get rid of them instead of reloading them.
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Re: .45 acp w/ small primers??? any info??

Postby acguy45 » Wed, 01 Dec 2010 12:43:54

Yup big PITA I know some speer " Lawman" .45 acp cases take the small primer. I'm sure there are others. other than the primer the load is the same, Personally unless I had enough of a quantity to make it worth the hassle to keep them seperated I would scrap them or just use them for an instance were you can't shag your brass.


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Re: .45 acp w/ small primers??? any info??

Postby CowboyT » Wed, 01 Dec 2010 18:30:39

I ran into the exact opposite problem with about twenty .357 Magnum cases. Found some nickel-plated ones, headstamped "REM-UMC", that use large primers! Not being one to throw away any .357 Magnum cases these days, and appreciating the novelty, I keep these segregated and load 'em single-stage until they finally wear out.
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Re: .45 acp w/ small primers??? any info??

Postby zephyp » Sat, 04 Dec 2010 10:55:56

I think this is some kind of green initiative...clean fire cartridges...
No more catchy slogans for me...I am simply fed up...4...four...4...2+2...

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Re: .45 acp w/ small primers??? any info??

Postby CowboyT » Sun, 05 Dec 2010 00:32:59

That's exactly what it is. Fiocchi is just one company making small pistol "green" primers w/o the lead styphnate.
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Re: .45 acp w/ small primers??? any info??

Postby mjrducky » Tue, 07 Dec 2010 09:24:52

I've had some of the Winchester Win Clean brass with the small primer's. I just sort those out and recycle.
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Re: .45 acp w/ small primers??? any info??

Postby jihgwt » Wed, 21 Sep 2011 10:46:25

This was on Speer bullet Web site A number of factory 45 Auto cartridges are fitted with small primer pockets. There is no safety hazard in reloading these cases with standard small pistol primers. However, most published load data is developed using cartridge cases with large primer pockets and standard large pistol primers. A small pistol primer should have no trouble igniting a 45 Auto charge but may produce slightly less pressure.
Whatever that means ? (open to Interpretation I Guess)


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Re: .45 acp w/ small primers??? any info??

Postby jrswanson1 » Thu, 22 Sep 2011 13:12:30

I got a few 10mm cartridges like that! The small primer doesn't burn the powder charge as quickly as the large primer does, so you have to either up the powder charge or us magnum small pistol primers. 10mm brass is hard enough to get, this is just aggravating.


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Re: .45 acp w/ small primers??? any info??

Postby Hocktl » Thu, 12 Jan 2012 17:34:17

What you got is those non-toxic rounds. I blame California....again.
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Re: .45 acp w/ small primers??? any info??

Postby FirinFlatTop » Sat, 05 May 2012 19:48:28

It works just fine. I keep it sorted out and make a batch when I have 500 or so. Shoots as good as the large primer. I keep my brass head sorted so no problem for me to find the small primer stuff. Why not use it???

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